More on debating Afghanistan
Generally, I would agree with him that publicly debating an already agreed to military commitment is better avoided than not. There are a couple of points, though, that I'd like to make about debates like this, one of which in my view tips the balance on this particular question.
The problem with the Afghanistan mission is not that we're there. The problem is that the Canadian public isn't at all well informed about what the objectives are or how long we're committed for. As evidence, I would cite Jay's own comment, where he (correctly) says that "we committed for a year (I think)". As I say, he's right-that is how long we committed to stay for, though I can't find the precise date we committed on at this timeline at the CBC. But I don't know when that year began or is scheduled to end, and I don't know what happens after that. Neither, I would guess, does Jay, and if he doesn't know something about Canadian politics and national security it's safe to surmise that 99% of the Canadian public is even more in the dark.
As he correctly points out, it's the Martin government's fault that we're in this fog about the mission to Afghanistan, and I believe that the Harper government is acting in good faith when they balk at debating a deployment that's already underway. That said, we need to have a conversation about the Afghan mission at some point, and I'd prefer to have it now, when a new government can lay out a clean case for the mission, rather than in six months, when who knows what will have happened, both in Afghanistan and in the House of Commons.
Put it another way: there will still be work to be done in Afghanistan when the year-long commitment expires. Both MPs in Parliament and the Canadian public as a whole will be much better able to evaluate whether that commitment is one we should extend if we are given a clear outline of what we're doing over there and what we hope to accomplish. In my view, a parliamentary debate, where MPs can raise questions, hopefully reasonable ones, and equally hopefully have them answered, is a good way to get that outline.
Finally, I'm leery of the argument that we can't have debates about troops in the field because it can be used, by unscrupulous governments, to muffle legitimate and necessary criticism. Again, this should come up for debate at the very least when our current commitment expires. If the government, as I suspect it will, takes the position that we should stay in Afghanistan, what's to stop them from refusing to debate that decision on the same grounds on which they didn't want to have this debate? After all, the Liberals did just that-committing us to an armed deployment in an hot zone by fiat.
None of which is to say that staying in Afghanistan is a bad idea-certainly the current commitment has to be kept, and depending on how things go, I would say that future commitments might be necessary. But we have to talk about it openly, or we wind up not really knowing what we're signing up for.
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First of all, touché. I had to smile at just how well my own words demonstrated your point. (Though doesn't is demonstrate that we're all so well-informed that our gut instincts are right? Never mind.)
I agree with you completely that it can be dangerous to equate debate with undermining the troops and aiding the enemy - that on its own is undemocratic and really really dumb. And I agree there's a logical problem: if Harper forgoes parliamentary debate the next time around, would I continue to insist that debate is inappropriate because the decision has already been taken? Because if so, that means that I could, in theory, only ever support a debate for the next time around.
But we're not there yet. If Harper tries to do what Martin did, I might change my opinion on whether debate is appropriate, but at this point, I would maintain that it's appropriate to have a debate (and vote) about renewing our committment, but not about the current one. My understanding is that we need to tell NATO by July whether we'll be in for another year, so I don't think we're really talking about a long delay in debate - it should happen before the summer parliamentary recess. In the meantime, I agree that the public needs to be informed about the nature of the Afghan mission - but I think that can be done without appearing to second-guess the troops already in the field.
And again, I would stress that in instances like Iraq, where there has been an open-ended legislative resolution approving of executive action, it is appropriate for the legislature to review its support and evaluate current conditions whenever it feels appropriate. But when there is a specific, definite, limited committment made, that committment should be seen through. Such major committments should not be made without parliamentary support in the first place - and as I say, if they continue to be, I may change my position on this. But for now, I'm going to stick up for blind parliamentary acquiesence to the exercise of the Crown prerogative. (God Save the Queen, eh Mr. Gray?)
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